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Nov. 12th, 2007

I really try not to ask you guys lame questions, but I've got one.

I'm trying my hand out at socks. I have picked a pattern out that may not be the best first sock pattern for a beginner: Streamline. (The link for the .pdf is the last line of the blog post.)

I am determined to knit this sock, and I'm pretty stubborn and adventurous. This requires an insane and magical cast on that I have fully mastered. I keep getting the ribbing botched up in the first few rows. So my very goofy question is:

Is kfb the same as k1fb? I cannot obtain this information via google. She uses kfb in round two and then k1fb throughout the rest of the pattern. I am trying to work it just by doing the front/back increase the way I always have. Something's rotten on the planet Wormulon.

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eveanhei
Nov. 13th, 2007 03:45 am (UTC)
To the best of my knowledge, yes.
being_isis
Nov. 13th, 2007 06:07 am (UTC)
ditto on the first answer. I'm a stubborn and adventurous knitter as well, and there's this book called The Knitting Answer Book. it's basically amazing, and has a really good index for when you get stuck. it's only fifteen bucks or so, and I've seen it just about everywhere I buy yarn. completely worth the investment.

the last line of your post made me giggle.
knit_fink
Nov. 13th, 2007 08:01 am (UTC)
k1fb is the standard abbreviation. I think she just changed midway through writing the pattern. Those are some cute slippers.
rupestur
Nov. 13th, 2007 02:22 pm (UTC)
Thanks, guys. I thought so, but I wasn't sure, and the mussed up ribbing made me go "GROOOGGG!" I will try again.
sarakate
Nov. 13th, 2007 06:29 pm (UTC)
The Kfb and K1fb are just two possible abbreviations for the same thing, and I don't think there's anything different intended here, because if you add up the stitch counts on the even rows, you're increasing 4 per increase round, and there are 4 rounds for a total of 16 increases, which does get you from 24 stitches to 40 stitches, as indicated.

HOWEVER, I'm not at all surprised you're having issues with your ribbing in the first few rows, because the ODD rows have problems. As an example, on Row 2, the first half is K1, Kfb, P3, K2, P3, Kfb, K1. That uses up 12 stitches, and leaves you with 14 after you're done. The first half of row 3, however, is K2, P3, K2, P3, K2, which is only 12 stitches. And the first half of Row 5 only has 13 stitches in it, although the first half of row 4 leaves you with 16.

The easy solution would be to do a plain stockinette toe, just doing the increases where indicated and knitting everything else, and then going into the ribbing pattern after the toe; her pattern for the ribbing once you get to the foot is correct (and the remainder of the pattern looks fine, on a quick read-through).

The more complex solution would be to re-write the toe rows. And while fixing actual problems, I'd also address some design deficiencies -- specifically, I'd use PFB instead of KFB where more appropriate to the pattern, and because the lack of symmetry in the standard version of these increases drives me absolutely bug nuts, I'd use the "mirrored" versions of these for the first increase of each half, so that the new stitch appears to the right of the original instead of to the left (you can read more about the mirrored KFB/PFB, or about these increases generally, here, about halfway down -- or if this is too much for you, you can skip it and do the regular versions, but it won't be quite as pretty).

So, using mKFB and mPFB for the mirrored versions, and accounting for ONLY the top half of each round, here is my re-written version of these directions:

Round 2, part 1: K1, mKFB, P3, K2, P3, KFB, K1.
Round 3, part 1: K3, P3, K2, P3, K3.
Round 4, part 1: K1, mKFB, K1, P3, K2, P3, K1, KFB, K1.
Round 5, part 1: K1, P1, K2, P3, K2, P3, K2, P1, K1.
Round 6, part 1: K1, mPFB, K2, P3, K2, P3, K2, PFB, K1.
Round 7, part 1: K1, P2, K2, P3, K2, P3, K2, P2, K1.
Round 8, part 1: K1, mPFB, P1, K2, P3, K2, P3, K2, P1, PFB, K1.

The "part 2" directions are fine, except that I would do mKFB for the first increase, to match the top side, on each of the even rounds.
rupestur
Nov. 13th, 2007 08:38 pm (UTC)
Thank you so much for taking the time to read the pattern! I will definitely use your modified version, and thanks for the info on those mirrored increases, that'll help me bunches! This sock knitting thing reminds me of learning to knit in the first place, how frustrating and also grand and exciting it was :D
sarakate
Nov. 13th, 2007 10:08 pm (UTC)
It is exciting and mystifying when you first start, isn't it? Especially heel turns. But pretty soon you'll have that down, and then it'll all make lots of sense.
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